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Bbwatcher
Member
09-12-2008
| Tuesday, January 01, 2013 - 6:57 am 
In fairness to Bethanny, if he wanted to save the marriage he would have agreed to counseling. It seemed to me Jason wanted the problems in their marriage to be all Bethanny's
and if he went to counseling it might show he bore some of the blame. I truly believe she married him because she loved him...she just has a hard time with relationships. Jason did not make it easy with his "ideas" on how she should feel. They both had their baggage and I think it cost them their happiness!
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Tuesday, January 01, 2013 - 8:38 am
I agree with bbwatcher. They both have issues. Remember how he wanted them to visit his parents every 2 weeks? Way too much to ask. They both have needs the other couldn't fulfill. And he wasn't willing to try counseling, I believe.
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Citruscitygal
Member
08-07-2003
| Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 12:23 am
Ditto Bbwatcher & Redpen
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 4:30 am
I am sorry that it did not work out.
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Roblover
Member
05-17-2011
| Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 5:35 pm
I am very sorry it did not work out for them. I, too, agree with bbwatcher that they both have issues.
Yes, Redpen, I thought Jason wanting to see his parents so often was a lot to ask of Bethenny with her schedule. If he wanted that type of life, then he should have married a girl from his hometown. I do not fault him for wanting to have that kind of life style but I am puzzled why he thought that would work with Bethenny. I guess they thought they could work it out. I am trying to remember if they went to pre-marriage counseling because that is one of those issues that needed to be honestly looked at before marriage and a child.
I do think they loved, and maybe still do, each other. I'm sad for them that it did not work out. I enjoyed their first year together. But the second series just was not happy. They used to laugh and have such fun.
Wonder who gets that fancy, remodeled apartment?
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 3:45 pm
She still lives there. I remember Anderson Cooper saying she was evacuated for Sandy.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, January 04, 2013 - 8:53 pm
I caught a glimpse of the real Jason on the episode with both of them on the boat with Bethenny's psychologist. Jason is very passive/agressive and really wore her down.
He definitely needed to go to counseling, but maybe he was afraid to see himself in a different light. I give credit to Bethenny for trying very hard to keep it together, but she had so much already going on in her upbringing, he was just the wrong type of guy for her.
Many are speculating he had a jealousy of her success...I don't know. I thought they were working together. It could have been both of their success. It's very sad. I was hoping she'd have another child and they could work it out, but I hope she can be happy no matter what she does.
Is she still going to have a talk show in CA?
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Braveheart61901
Member
08-11-2006
| Friday, January 04, 2013 - 11:29 pm
Just read on Twitter (Huffington Post, I think) that they're still sharing the same apartment. Weird setup, Imo.
Also mentioned that her show was being syndicated in 2013. ??? Let me see if I can find the link and I'll be back.
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Braveheart61901
Member
08-11-2006
| Friday, January 04, 2013 - 11:45 pm
Here's the link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/03/bethenny-frankel-jason-hoppy-split-devastated-living-together_n_2404710.html
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 6:27 pm
According to the article she is spending too much time concentrating on her business and that is why the marriage failed and also it is either her way or the highway according to a "source". They also said that she doesn't seem too upset. First off, I don't believe anyone who prints something a "source" said. And secondly, how come when a woman works hard and her marriage fails, its her fault. When a man works hard, he is supporting his family. On their show I have heard her ask him to go to therapy and he would not go. He also feeds into her saying she is damaged. I really have not liked him much and also, not that there is anything wrong with this, I have always thought he was gay, but was possibly hiding this due to his parents would not accept it. When he married her he knew she was a driven type person. I do feel badly for her.
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Roblover
Member
05-17-2011
| Saturday, January 05, 2013 - 8:10 pm
Thanks Redpen for info. I can see them still living together in the apartment. I imagine she travels a lot.
Did anyone see Nick, the food blogger, who was on her shows a few times, on 20/20 last night? He has lost 66 lbs! He was also featured in People's magazine's weight loss issue.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 10:47 am
I could not be married to her, but that's just my opinion. She has a ton of issues, I'm not saying he doesn't have his own, but because of her past family life, I think she had a problem with understanding what a family actually is.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 11:25 am
"I think she had a problem with understanding what a family actually is"
Couldn't have said it better myself. I watched a portion of one episode after she had her baby. The grandmother was talking to the baby and Bethany was holding the child in a way to make it clear that the grandmother was not to do that. I found it incredibly sad and never watched again.
I can't help but feel this is all a publicity stunt anyways.
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 8:31 am
It just keeps getting uglier and uglier. Bethenny filed for primary physical custody; wants Jason to pay child support; provide medical and dental insurance for BOTH Bethenny and Bryn; and for him to take out a life insurance policy for which SHE and Bryn will be beneficiaries.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/07/bethenny-frankel-ex-jason-hoppy-divorce-child-support-prenup/
Jason has vowed to fight for joint custody:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/01/bethenny-frankel-divorce-turns-ugly-exclusive
I'm with Jason on this one. Bethenny is coming across as vindictive and greedy in my opinion.
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Idolworship
Member
05-07-2003
| Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 7:04 pm
Bethenny was my favorite housewife. Come to think of it, the bar was pretty low...but I loved her quick wit. Now, I hope she holds on to those millions, because she's certainly flushing her television career down the toilet. It will be interesting to see how Ellen DeGeneres handles
the Bethenny drama, since she's been pushing
Bethenny's TV show.
Nah, Kappy...there is no way this is a publicity
stunt. It's too ugly.
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Lake_gal
Member
06-09-2004
| Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 8:44 am
Jason needed to marry a girl from his hometown. It seems they both married someone completely opposite and wrong for themselves. They expected the other to live in their world and neither wanted to compromise.
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Roblover
Member
05-17-2011
| Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 9:44 pm
Well said,Lake_gal. All of their problems should have been worked out before making a baby and getting married.
Maybe Bethenny is afraid that Jason will move Bryn to PA. so his parents can babysit in a joint custody situation, and that is the reason for asking for primary custody?
Children are little for such a short time. You don't realize it until they are grown how little time you had with them. I wonder what would have happened to their marriage if they had not had the miscarriage. Whole situation is sad.
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 9:47 pm
Her financial demands for the settlement just seem vindictive. It would be better for her to just quietly settle and get on with her life.
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Lurkin
Member
02-15-2002
| Friday, January 11, 2013 - 2:10 pm
I think the dental and life insurance on Bryn is justified but not on Bethanny. I saw whe wanted the prenup upheld. hmm... would love to see that one
I cant remember if she sold Skinny girl marg. before or after they were married, but he could fight for some of that skinny girl fat money
I agree Bethanny didnt come from a stable home and he did and there is a HUGE difference .
It seems her childhood and all has left her with a tough exterior but very insecure.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Friday, January 11, 2013 - 5:20 pm
Just curious, we know her demands because???? Was it from an unidentified source? Sorry I can't believe what the tabloids are saying unless it comes out of their mouths and they aren't saying as it is really no ones business except theirs.
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Audie
Member
05-08-2011
| Monday, January 14, 2013 - 9:11 pm
I hope Jason gets full custody and Bethenny supervised visitation. I don't think she is much of a mother and I wouldn't trust her caring for the child on her own. Bethenny loves Bethenny, in my opinion, and that's all.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Wednesday, January 16, 2013 - 11:23 pm
I'm not surprised by the requests in the divorcee filings (if we believe them). It's the beginning. You always ask for the stars, so you can settle for the moon. The thing or things you really want.
Bethanny did say on the Ellen show that she would be filming her new show in NY instead of in California. I remember Jason not being thrilled about moving to the west coast. Perhaps this is her first defensive move to keep custody of her daughter.
It would be great if they could work it out themselves, but if it has to go a judge then you have to give the judge something to say no to you about. I'm sure Bethanny has a very good lawyer that knows how to play the game. That is all these demans/requests are.....the beginning of the game.
That said....whoever doesn't get custody should pay child support. Child support is about the child, not the person you are divorcing, no matter how much money you have.
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, January 17, 2013 - 9:08 pm
I'm just so sad it didn't work out.
I really want Lamar and K*loe to work.
(remember, don't *ave an * on my computer)
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 10:08 pm
I think it is too bad this didn't work out. But not surprising.
It is hard for me to understand why some people feel that
it was too demanding of Jason to want Bethany, he, and Brynn
to visit his parents every 2 weeks. It seems like a normal request.
Grandparents have a right to be a part of their grandchildren's
lives.
As entertaining as Bethany can be (as a tv 'celebrity') it
is apparent that she has problems with relating to people in a real
way. Kinda sad.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 10:12 pm
Didn't his parents live in Pennsylvania or something. If so, that's quite the trip every other weekend.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Wednesday, January 30, 2013 - 10:25 pm
Oh right. That would make it rather demanding that's for sure.
There's always skype, right?! 
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Texannie
Member
07-15-2001
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 3:22 am
I am with you Wavewatcher! it's only about a 2.5 hour drive.
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Marameko
Member
07-14-2002
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 8:35 am
The ride out of NYC is an easy trip to North Central PA and quite a lovely ride in the summer and glorious in the fall. The only drawback would be the # of cars going/coming on the weekend.I don't get the hassle of the trip, Jason could have gone with the child alone at times if Bethenny wanted to stay in the city.
I like Bethenny but I am not surprised at how she is acting. Frankly I feel sorry for Jason.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 3:47 pm
I don't have any kids but that would drive me nuts to have to go visit family every two weeks. My BFF only sees her grandkids every two month or so and says that is plenty, so I think it depends on what you are used to. Not everyone is that grand-parent centric; I was always amazed at how much time he wanted to spend with his parents.
It seems to me that you should want to spend most of the time with your husband/wife and kids to build your traditions and family life with an occasional visit to other family, maybe once a quarter, JMO. that is, of course, as long as you are keeping up via phone, email, and now skype.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 4:41 pm
My grandmother lived 3 hours away. We went to visit her about every 3 months.
It might be a 2.5 hour drive, but it's a whole weekend spent there, then 2.5 hour drive home.
To me, that would be a lot for me to commit to, and I'm sure I am not as busy as Bethenny is.
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Roblover
Member
05-17-2011
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 9:06 pm
I agree the 2.5 hour trip, one way, and then back would be too much for me every two weeks. I would not expect my children, if they lived out of town, to do that either.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 9:12 pm
This is so off the Bethany & Jason topic but I am curious about
whether there are discussions on The Bachelor. First time I have
ever given it a try ... can't understand why the guy dumped the
most genuine gal with a sparkling personality in favour of so many
flaky people. She was the one he took shopping for a dress, shoes,
handbag...Anyway, steer me to the right spot to hear other opinions. It is a silly show but I am interested in other opinions.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Thursday, January 31, 2013 - 10:07 pm
go here http://www.tvclubhouse.com/forum/read.php?file=/1109203/1109203.html&lm=1359579538
for bachelor, etc.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 7:34 pm
I don't have any kids but that would drive me nuts to have to go visit family every two weeks. My BFF only sees her grandkids every two month or so and says that is plenty, so I think it depends on what you are used to. Not everyone is that grand-parent centric; I was always amazed at how much time he wanted to spend with his parents.
It seems to me that you should want to spend most of the time with your husband/wife and kids to build your traditions and family life with an occasional visit to other family, maybe once a quarter, JMO. that is, of course, as long as you are keeping up via phone, email, and now skype.
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Family is important.
We used to visit my grandma every weekend. Although she hated us, I did not mind visiting her. I learned a lot from her whether she wanted it or not. My love of crafting is all her fault!}
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